Who are the posterity of biblical Jacob?
For understanding who the modern tribes of Judah and Joseph are, the best book for this subject is “Judah’s Sceptre and Joseph’s Birthright” by J.H. Allen (1847-1930).
According to Steven M Collins, Who are the posterity of biblical Jacob?
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Steven M Collins, in his extensive research, posits that the modern descendants of the biblical patriarch Jacob, also known as Israel, are primarily found among various Western nations today. He suggests that the so-called “lost” ten tribes of Israel migrated over centuries and became foundational populations in these regions. Below is a detailed summary of his assertions regarding the modern identities of these tribes:
1. Ephraim and Manasseh:
- United States and the British Commonwealth Nations: Collins argues that the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh, sons of Joseph, have manifested in the modern world as the United States (Manasseh) and the British Commonwealth nations (Ephraim). He interprets the biblical blessing of a “nation and company of nations” to refer to these entities. Steven M Collins
2. Reuben:
- France: According to Collins, the tribe of Reuben is associated with modern-day France. He bases this on historical and cultural analyses, suggesting that the characteristics and history of the French people align with those attributed to Reuben in biblical texts.
3. Judah:
- Modern Jews: Collins maintains that the tribe of Judah corresponds to the Jewish people today. He emphasizes that while the term “Israel” in biblical prophecies often refers to the ten tribes, “Judah” specifically pertains to the Jewish descendants. Steven M Collins
4. Gad:
- Switzerland: Linked to Swiss and Switzerland: also Germany: Collins proposes that the tribe of Gad is also represented by the modern nation of Germany, particularly the region formerly known as West Germany. He cites historical behaviors and characteristics, such as martial prowess and territorial expansion, as indicative of Gad’s descendants. Steven M Collins
5. Issachar:
- Finland: He suggests that the tribe of Issachar migrated through regions like South Russia and eventually settled in what is now Finland. Collins points to place names and historical records that he believes trace Issachar’s journey to this region. Steven M Collins
6. Zebulun:
- The Netherlands: Collins associates the tribe of Zebulun with the Dutch people, drawing parallels between the maritime culture and trading prowess of the Netherlands and the blessings pronounced upon Zebulun in biblical accounts.
7. Asher:
- Belgium: Collins identifies Asher with the Belgae, an ancient group in Gaul (modern Belgium and parts of France), and extends this to Luxembourg and other peoples of the Low Countries.
8. Naphtali:
- Sweden: According to Collins, the tribe of Naphtali corresponds to modern-day Sweden, with historical and linguistic evidence supporting this identification.
9. Dan:
- Denmark and Ireland: Collins suggests that the tribe of Dan split into different groups, with some settling in Denmark (noting the etymological link in the name “Denmark”) and others in Ireland.
10. Simeon and Levi:
- Scattered Among Other Nations: He believes that the tribes of Simeon and Levi were dispersed among the other Israelite tribes and, as a result, do not have a distinct modern national identity.
Collins’ theories are detailed in his publications, including “The ‘Lost’ Ten Tribes of Israel…Found!” and “Israel’s Tribes Today,” where he presents maps, charts, and illustrations to support his claims. Amazon
It’s important to note that these views are part of a specific interpretative framework and are not universally accepted among historians or theologians. Mainstream scholarship does not endorse the direct identification of modern nations with specific ancient Israelite tribes.
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ChatGPT replies for Yair Davidiy:
Tribal Identifications According to Yair Davidiy
1. Ephraim
- The British Commonwealth (United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc.)
- Davidiy argues that Ephraim became the dominant Israelite presence in the British Isles, fulfilling the prophecy of becoming “a multitude of nations” (Genesis 48:19).
2. Manasseh
- United States of America
- According to Davidiy, the United States represents Manasseh, fulfilling the prophecy of becoming “a great people” (Genesis 48:19). He cites symbols such as the American “Great Seal” (depicting an eagle, which he associates with Manasseh) as evidence.
3. Reuben
- France
- He associates Reuben with the French, suggesting that their historical tendencies align with Reuben’s characteristics in the Bible.
4. Judah
- The Jewish People
- Unlike the other tribes, Judah retained its identity and is primarily represented by the Jewish population worldwide today.
5. Zebulun
- The Netherlands
- Davidiy connects the Dutch people to Zebulun, citing the tribe’s historical link to maritime activity and trade, which aligns with the Netherlands’ role as a global trading power.
6. Issachar
- Switzerland & Finland
- He associates Issachar with the Swiss and the Finns, emphasizing Switzerland’s reputation for wisdom and knowledge, which are attributes linked to Issachar.
7. Dan
- Denmark & Ireland
- The name “Dan” appears in various place names, such as Denmark (“Dan’s Mark”). He also suggests that parts of the tribe settled in Ireland.
8. Naphtali
- Norway
- He links Naphtali with the Norwegians, noting that their characteristics resemble the biblical descriptions of Naphtali as agile and free-spirited.
9. Gad
- Sweden
- Sweden is associated with Gad, possibly due to historical and cultural similarities with the biblical descriptions of this tribe.
10. Asher
- Belgium & parts of Scotland
- The tribe of Asher was blessed with riches and good food, which Davidiy connects to Belgium, a country known for its wealth and culinary culture.
11. Simeon & Levi
- Scattered among other nations
- According to Davidiy, Simeon and Levi did not form independent nations but were dispersed among the other Israelite tribes.
Summary of Yair Davidiy’s View on the Tribes of Israel Today
| Tribe | Modern Identity |
|---|---|
| Ephraim | United Kingdom, British Commonwealth |
| Manasseh | United States of America |
| Reuben | France |
| Judah | Jewish People |
| Zebulun | Netherlands |
| Issachar | Switzerland, Finland |
| Dan | Denmark, Ireland |
| Naphtali | Norway |
| Gad | Sweden |
| Asher | Belgium, parts of Scotland |
| Simeon | Scattered among other tribes |
| Levi | Scattered among other tribes |
Davidiy’s research combines biblical prophecy, historical migration patterns, linguistic analysis, and cultural similarities to support his claims. He argues that the Lost Tribes of Israel eventually migrated north and west into Europe, and their descendants later settled in North America and other regions.
His work is widely read among those interested in the theory that the modern Western nations are linked to ancient Israel, although mainstream historians and theologians generally do not accept these claims as definitive historical fact.
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The identities of the various tribes above are largely drawn from the researches done by Steven Collins and Yair Davidiy; although there are some variants between them. Both, however, have serious errors in their identities of Ephraim and Manasseh.
The sons of Joseph are the Five Eyes, and their nerve center runs through Washington DC, not London:
(1) The Birthrights (2) Ephraim and Manasseh (3) Ephraim as the Thirteenth Tribe (4) Who is this lying Ephraim? (5) The Ox with horns of a Unicorn
For understanding who the modern tribes of Judah and Joseph are, the best book for this subject is “Judah’s Sceptre and Joseph’s Birthright” by J.H. Allen (1847-1930).
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