Ephraim and Manasseh
Who is Ephraim and who is Manasseh
More on the Ox and the Unicorn:
Let the blessing come upon the head of Joseph, and upon the top of the head of him that was separated from his brethren. His glory is like the firstling of his ox (bullock), and his horns are like the horns of unicorns. With them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth; and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh,” Deuteronomy 33:16-17.
In the above verse, the Ox and Ephraim are named first, the firstborn of his (Joseph’s) “bullock is his glory”: the reference being to Ephraim; followed by Unicorn and Manasseh.
Although Manasseh was the firstborn, Joseph the father crossed his hands and placed Ephraim as firstborn, hence Ephraim, often known as the thirteenth tribe, represents not just the house of Joseph, but more often the house of the 10-tribes Northern Kingdom.
In Rabbinic teachings: the myriads (ten thousands) slain by Joshua, of the tribe of Ephraim: These are the myriads descended from Ephraim;
— and the thousands of Manasseh: these are the thousands slain by Gideon, who was of the tribe of Manasseh. These are the thousands descended from Manasseh.
In his blessings Jacob ascribes to Ephraim ten thousands, and to Manasseh only thousands; thus foreshowing, that Ephraim the younger was to be the more numerous of the two, as Jacob had before prophesied of them.
Japheth
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Thanks for your thoughts; I do often wonder at the points you raise;
especially if and when Joseph had married daughter of Ham; but here is an article about Asenath, said to be the wife of Joseph.
And here from wiki (Asenath):
First mentioned in Genesis 41:45, Asenath is said to be the wife of Joseph and the mother of his sons, Manasseh and Ephraim. In the Book of Genesis, she is referred to as the daughter of Potipherah priest of On (Gk. Heliopolis) In the Book of Jubilees, she is said to be given to Joseph to marry by the Pharaoh, a daughter of Potiphar, a high priest of Heliopolis, with no clarification as to whether or not this Potiphar is the same Potiphar whose wife falsely accused Joseph of attempting to rape her. While in the Midrash and Targum Pseudo-Jonathan, she is said to be the daughter of Dinah, Joseph’s sister, and Shechem, born of an illicit union, described as either premarital sex or rape, depending on the narrative. A later-date apocryphal publication, written in Greek, believed to be a Christian document, called Joseph and Aseneth, supposedly details their relationship and their 48-year long reign over Egypt; in it, Asenath weds Joseph, whose brothers Dan and Gad plot to kill him for the sake of Pharaoh’s son, who wants Asenath to be his wife, only for their efforts to be thwarted by Joseph’s younger brother Benjamin.
If Ephraim & Manasseh is not the US and the UK, then who are they then? How would they look like today? Surely they couldn’t just disappear?
EPHRAIM & MANASSEH cp
EPHRAIM & MANASSEH ARE NOT THE U.S. & BRITAIN!
THE BIBLE’S EXPLAINATION OF EPHRAIM & MANASSEH’S GENETIC LINE DOES NOT SUPPORT YOUR BELIEF BUT INVALIDATES IT!!
The Bible tells us that the mother of Ephraim & Manasseh (ASENATH), was an Egyptian (Because Her father was the Egyptian Priest “POTIPHERAH”: Genesis 41:45,50 & 46:20), and that The Egyptians were descended from Noah’s son Ham; HAM FATHERED THE FOLLOWING NATIONS (AFTER THE FLOOD), “ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE”:(Genesis 10:6): CUSH (Ethiopians), MIZRAIM (Egyptians), PUTH (Libyans), and CANAAN (Canaanites)! See also PSALMS:(78:51),(106:22),(105:23),(105:27), which tells us that the Egyptians were the children of HAM!
Genesis 10:6 Is telling us that the (BLACK Ethiopians), Egyptians, Libyans & Canaanites were “BROTHERS” and ALL had the same (Black Father),“HAM”! The BIBLE tells us in (Genesis 10:6), that HAM fathered MIZRAIM (Egypt) and CUSH, (Ethiopians). ALSO PUTH (Libyans) & (Canaanites) The Ethiopians have ALWAYS been and will always be a BLACK race their history can be traced back over 3500 years, (THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GENETIC WHITE ETHIOPIAN, ALL ETHIOPIANS ARE BLACK)! Which means Ham had to have been BLACK in order to father BLACK Ethiopian children,” WHITE MEN CANNOT FATHER BLACK CHILDREN” and Hams other children EGYPT (MIZRAIM) had to have been BLACK because they are the (BROTHERS), of the Black Ethiopians and had the same (BLACK), Father HAM, (THIS IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS LIKE IT OR NOT!) (GENESIS 10:6)! Which means ASENATH (the Egyptian mother of Ephraim & Manasseh), Was BLACK, In case you haven’t figured it out yet Asenath’s BLACK Genetic traits would make it IMPOSSIBLE FOR HER TO GIVE BIRTH TO TWO WHITE SONS EPHRAIM & MANASSEH (U.S. & BRITAIN), NO MATTER WHAT COLOR HER HUSBAND (JOSEPH) WAS! I could end this controversy here since your philosophy (Ephraim & Manasseh), the U.S. & Britain is already invalidated by GENETICS, THE BIBLE and COMMON SENSE but lets go further, lets assume that Joseph was White (ALTHOUGH NOWHERE IN BIBLICAL SCRIPTURE DOES IT SAY THIS AND I CHALLENGE ANYONE TO TAKE ME TO THE BOOK, CHAPTER & VERSE THAT SAYS OTHERWISE), but as I have already shown, from Biblical scripture, ASENATH had to have been BLACK just as Her Grandfather HAM since He was the father of the Black Ethiopians! IT WOULD BE GENETICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO GET TWO PREDOMINATELY WHITE NATIONS (US & BRITAIN), FROM A WHITE FATHER AND BLACK MOTHER!! NO EXCEPTIONS!! IT WOULD BE GENETICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR HAM TO FATHER BOTH BLACK & WHITE CHILDREN! Black Ethiopian children (Cush) and White Egyptian children (Mizraim); Contrary to popular belief, THE ORIGINAL EGYPTIANS WERE BLACK JUST AS THEIR BLACK ETHIOPIAN BROTHERS BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS THAT THEY HAD THE SAME (BLACK FATHER),“HAM”. A WHITE MAN CANNOT FATHER
BLACK CHILDREN! SINCE NOAH’S SON HAM FATHERED BLACK ETHIOPIAN CHILDREN (CUSH), COMMON SENSE TELLS US THAT HE WAS NOT WHITE AND HAD TO HAVE BEEN A BLACK MAN! YOUR NON-BIBLICAL EPHRAIM & MANASSEH STORY HAS THIS BLACK MAN “HAM” FATHERING EGYPTIAN CHILDREN THAT YOU CLAIM ARE WHITE DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE BIBLE SAYS THAT THEIR BROTHERS WERE BLACK ETHIOPIANS AND THEIR FATHER WAS THE BLACK MAN “HAM”! (GEN.10: 6) YOUR EPHRAIM & MANASSEH STORY IS CONTRARY TO COMMON SENSE GENETICS AND BIBLICAL SCRIPTURE! THE FOUNDATION OF YOUR BELIEF IS LIKE A HOUSE BUILT ON SAND AND NO MATTER WHAT OTHER SO-CALLED EVIDENCE YOU PRESENT TO PROVE YOUR POINT OR SO- CALLED EXPERTS THAT YOU QUOTE OR SO-CALLED GENETIC EXAMPLES THAT YOU PUT FORTH THE FOUNDATION OF YOUR BELIEF REPRESENTS A LIE ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE! IT’S IMPOSSIBLE TO GET THE TRUTH WHEN YOU START WITH A LIE! Attempting to prove that the US & BRITIAN are Ephraim & Manasseh is CALLING GOD AND BIBLICAL SCHRIPTURE A LIE! THE BIBLES EXPLAINATION OF EPHRAIM & MANASSEH’S GENETIC LINE DOES NOT SUPPORT YOUR BELIEF! SO IF YOU BELIEVE WHAT THE BIBLE ACTUALLY SAYS THE MOTHER OF EPHRAIM & MANASSEH (ASENATH), WAS A BLACK WOMAN MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR HER TO BE THE MOTHER OF TWO PREDOMINATELY WHITE NATIONS (US & BRITAIN).
Genesis 1:24-25 KJV
[24] And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. [25] And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.